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I'm going to catch holy hell for this one aren't I? Just before anyone rants at me, I want to note I do not support or condone the actions of Joseph Stalin, Stalinism etc, I still hold that the man was pretty twisted at times. Rather pointing out a logical fallacy the right wing always loves to play against anyone on the left, no matter if your a liberal, socialist, anarchist, communist or whatever and that is the "communists killed X number of people." arguement
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:iconzath9:
Humans will give more when they have less and give less when they have more. Its a survival strategy that cannot be altered and thus all leadership will inherently be cruel given enough time to adjust to ommunism gives too much power to too few people and this shit happens. Ideology plays NO role in it; they are simply forms of power used to justify the cruelty.
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Shiki-Scarlet 14 hours ago  Hobbyist Writer
ashkuff.com/blog/?p=1965

Just something worth considering, because that whole "all humans are evil" shit isn't really hard science.
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Atamolos Jan 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yep. No arguing with this logic. I might as well renounce my communist ways now.
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:iconfredrikslicer:
Agreed though I'm not a socialist (actually I usally describe myself as an anti-ideolog) but such arguments are silly at best
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ComradeSch Mar 24, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I'm still far left, yet I hate Stalin and his policies. I actually link Stalin with the far RIGHT of socialism (Nazism), and thus, don't count him as a true Communist.
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Actually this argument can be defeated when pointing out, that stalinism isn't communism(and should never be) The most annoying argument is: "Communism is not possible, because humans are greedy and selfish.(and of course, capitalism has nothing to do with this fact)" I hear that one a lot and Im suprised how much people know about human nature...
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Shiki-Scarlet Mar 4, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I agree, I just like using it as a prime example of the "communists killed X number of people" fallacy.

As for everyone playing the appeal to nature card, I hold to the idea greed, corruption, and ignorance are not intrinsic human qualities but were rather drilled into us by the harsh primeval environment and later, by our obsolete social institutions.
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ByronicBeat Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Pol Pot wasn't a Marxist. He deliberately ignored Marx and in interviews even explicitly stated, "We don't have a line." He wasn't a Marxist-Leninist, he wasn't a Maoist. He was just an opportunist that used what ever label would get him foreign support. He tried to get Western Countries to save him when Vietnam decided to invade him. And thank Lenin that Vietnam invaded him.
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Shiki-Scarlet Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Sadly anti communists will continue to list him as an example, hell some even use Hitler as well. Lets just say the empire of Japan in WW2 where communists as well! Julius Caesar was also a communist and killed 200 trillion people under socialist Rome.

You know who else? The Mexican drug cartels, there communist as well!
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They only use Stalin because he's the most popular. How many Anti Communists will tell you about Pol Pot? Nobody, because he only killed "yellow people" and those don't count to western people.

Yeah, Communism doesn't kill people. It's an idea. People kill people.
Just like a whole bunch of US presidents killed people.
How many Indians died because of Andrew Jackson? And still his face is on the 20 dollar bills.
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